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Qwen releases open weights for Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B, a 2.4T-parameter MoE with 95B activated

The Qwen project has published the weights and configuration for Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B, a 2.4T-total / 95B-activated mixture-of-experts language model, in Hugging Face Transformers format.

WHY IT MATTERS

The model card describes this as the first Qwen-Max-class model made available as an open release, and the weights are explicitly compatible with vLLM, SGLang, and TokenSpeed, which lowers the integration cost for teams already running on those stacks. Native 262K context with extension to roughly 1M tokens, plus tunable reasoning depth via reasoning_effort and preserved reasoning context via preserve_thinking, makes the artifact directly relevant to long-horizon agentic workloads. Coverage is thin: only one feed carried the story, and the benchmark numbers below are publisher-reported rather than independently verified.

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The three things worth knowing

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Architecture is a 2.4T-total / 95B-activated MoE across 92 layers with 512 experts (10 routed + 1 shared) and a hybrid layout alternating Gated DeltaNet and Gated Attention blocks.

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Native context is 262,144 tokens, extensible to 1,010,000, with multi-token prediction trained across multiple steps and reasoning depth exposed as a runtime knob.

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Weights ship in Hugging Face Transformers format and are stated to be compatible with vLLM, SGLang, and TokenSpeed, while the feature-complete Qwen3.8-Max (vision, non-thinking, 1M default context, built-in tools) is offered via the managed Qwen API.

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ORIGINAL ANALYSIS

The repository publishes weights and configuration files for Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B in Hugging Face Transformers format, which the project describes as the first Qwen-Max-class model made available as an open release. Only one feed carried the event and the Hacker News entry points to a comments thread rather than independent reporting, so the available signal is essentially a single primary source. Claims about gains in coding, professional work, research, and long-horizon agentic tasks therefore come from the publisher's own benchmark table and should be read accordingly.

Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B is a causal language model with 2.4T total parameters and 95B activated per token, structured as 92 layers using the layout 23 × (3 × (Gated DeltaNet → MoE) → 1 × (Gated Attention → MoE)). The MoE has 512 experts with 10 routed plus 1 shared active per token, an expert intermediate dimension of 2048, and a hidden dimension of 8192 with a 248,320-vocabulary padded embedding. The Gated DeltaNet block uses 128 V heads and 16 QK heads at head dimension 128, while Gated Attention uses 64 Q heads and only 4 KV heads at head dimension 256, an asymmetric KV layout that materially affects KV-cache memory and is worth budgeting for at long context.

Native context is 262,144 tokens and the card states the model is extensible to 1,010,000 tokens. Training included multi-token prediction across multiple steps, and reasoning is surfaced as two runtime controls: reasoning_effort tunes how much the model thinks, while preserve_thinking retains reasoning context across historical messages. Both controls are directly relevant to building agents that need consistent chain-of-thought across many turns rather than a single short prompt.

The artifact is positioned as a base rather than a finished product. The weights target Hugging Face Transformers and are stated to be compatible with vLLM, SGLang, and TokenSpeed, so existing inference stacks can load the model without a new runtime. The official Qwen3.8-Max, built on Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B, is the variant that adds vision input, non-thinking support, 1M default context, and built-in tools, and is delivered through the managed Qwen API. That split means open-weights users get the foundation while the tool-augmented experience stays on the hosted service.

A 2.4T-total-parameter MoE is beyond what a single workstation can hold, even with only 95B parameters active per token, and adopting it locally requires multi-node GPU-class hardware. Coverage here is limited to a single feed plus the model card, so benchmark numbers are publisher-reported and the table's caveat that some Fable 5 results may involve fallbacks should be carried into any comparison. Finally, because Qwen3.8-Max is the feature-complete variant, the open artifact is explicitly a starting point for downstream systems rather than a drop-in replacement for the hosted product.

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